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swindon hammer
12:04 Thu Sep 6
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Pellegrini has a rolling contract so we could get rid at the end of the season without compensation.
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AKA ERNIE
1:48 Wed Sep 5
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I agree about not expecting anything.
Didn't agree about manager but may have a point !!!!
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Eerie Descent
1:38 Wed Sep 5
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I just can't see any way we get a result against Everton, ERN. They have an excellent manager who plays high press, organised football, and always gives off the impression in interviews he is in control of everything. He'll do very well for Everton, young and hungry for success. I had him as my first choice to take over, and got absolute pelters from every angle, but that's nothing new.
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AKA ERNIE
1:30 Wed Sep 5
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eerie good post mate
without stating the obvious Everton game is fucking huge
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Eerie Descent
12:48 Wed Sep 5
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The worst thing about all this is even after spending £100mil, and giving him £10mil a year, expectations were not really sky high all things considered.. I think we'd have all be really happy with 3-4 points from the first 4 games, or even 2 points if we could see some real positive signs.
Unfortunately, we've looked worse than at any point over the last 2 years, shaky at the back but worse of all, utterly toothless in attack. And our £40mil magic man with supposed blistering pace has looked weak and disinterested, unless like against Arsenal he is given the freedom of the park, which won't happen often in this league.
Very, very worrying signs thus far, and that's coming from someone who tries to be positive about most things West Ham, especially this early on into a reign.
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AKA ERNIE
12:19 Wed Sep 5
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no dementia mate thanks
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AKA ERNIE
12:19 Wed Sep 5
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my misses
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Jaan Kenbrovin
12:18 Wed Sep 5
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Haha, I never called Pellegrini anything?!
You got dementia?
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Northern Sold
12:15 Wed Sep 5
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So the thing is ERN... who looks after the bleeding cats on a match day then????
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AKA ERNIE
12:14 Wed Sep 5
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no. yep I started a thread slagging him off for going on holiday
you had a go at him for. day 1 and acted like you knew all when in fact you dont
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AKA ERNIE
12:14 Wed Sep 5
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sold not missed a home game for yrs and did a out 1p away last yr so wrong again mate
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AKA ERNIE
12:13 Wed Sep 5
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jaan fuck off yourself cunt
as usual you're full of shit
you and bob were calling him a cunt for weeks bet you're delighted we've had a bad start
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Jaan Kenbrovin
12:12 Wed Sep 5
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AKA ERNIE 11:32 Wed Sep 5
Not making anything up you miserable old cunt.
You were telling everyone and anyone that had an opinion of their own to pipe down as the manager knows best, despite being one of the biggest critics of Moyes.
Fucking mug.
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Northern Sold
12:04 Wed Sep 5
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Bob... ERN would love to be there but he has to Cat sit on Saturdays...
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Bob De Niro
11:58 Wed Sep 5
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You started a thread slagging him off and now you're slagging me off for saying I always slag him off, which I don't anyway, I don't even come on here much. You seem confused as well as being a hypocrite and an idiot.
You have a nice day now. See you at Everton and see if you call me an idiot to my face fella.
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paulon
11:52 Wed Sep 5
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https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/west-ham-look-broken-manuel-pellgrini-may-not-be-the-man-to-fix-them-a3927716.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1536133421
Here’s a novel idea: how about Manuel Pellegrini resigns honourably if he fails to turn things around at West Ham and they lose their next three games?
They never do, do they? They always get their payoff.
No wonder rival fans view the Hammers as the comedy act that keeps on giving.
Four Premier League games into his reign with four defeats under his belt, and already there are stories circulating about how much it would cost London’s most erratic club to get rid of the new manager if this desperate start is not arrested.
Standard Sport understands that Pellegrini’s three-year contract, worth £5million a year, is a 12-month rolling deal, which means West Ham would be obliged to pay a maximum of £7m in compensation should they wish to make a change in the next few weeks.
Payoffs to Pellegrini’s staff, including director of football Mario Husillos, would take the total above £10m, but the club have ruled out the possibility of sacking the manager.
Many believe that the co-owner David Sullivan doesn’t really understand football. But he certainly understands business.
Yet whatever the case in this matter, plenty of home fans would give the idea a lot of credence because it seems so typical of their wayward, befuddled and haphazard outfit, which spent nearly £100m on new players to reach this sorry point so quickly.
Hang on. That makes them seem like the dear old, soppy old Hammers of old. Harmless to most rivals, a bit eccentric but lovely in their way - on the pitch, anyway, if not in the stands, the city streets and the railway stations of the nation. Things are getting far too bleak around West Ham for that old chestnut about their nature to apply anymore, however.
Why should the idea of the Chilean Pellegrini standing down so early in his reign have validity already? The idea of football managers falling on their sword like politicians or captains of industry when they are forced to so do to take responsibility for failure never seems to enter the equation in football.
The profession is so precarious, they argue, that they face the sack constantly and so have to protect their interests and their futures by always taking the compensation.
It is a fair argument. But in West Ham’s current predicament, perhaps a different set of values should apply. Pellegrini has arrived on a massive salary and been backed to the hilt in the transfer market and has so far delivered only a spectacularly pathetic, yet typically comical failure.
The side doesn’t even look fit, let alone hungry. If things are not turned around, surely there will be a case for shaking hands and admitting it’s just not working out in a kind of quickie harmonious divorce without a huge cheque being required to make it happen.
After all, wouldn’t that be the act of a ‘Charming Man’ – which is the description Manchester City fans bestowed on Pellegrini as thanks for keeping the dugout warm for Pep Guardiola?
A fanciful thought, perhaps. Yet, after dismal defeats by Liverpool, Bournemouth, Arsenal and Wolves, he is already in the territory which cost Frank De Boer his job at Crystal Palace last season.
Frankly, judging by the listless, vapid nature of the performances so far, it seems perfectly justifiable for the supporters to wonder if a 64-year-old coach who spent the previous two years working in China actually has it in him to change things.
The rumblings from the squad at City – where he won the title – were that he was a little too charming; a little too dispassionate and phlegmatic. That wouldn’t suggest a manager raring to go in a relegation dogfight in the English winter.
Neither would the information that when Guardiola eventually took over, he was shocked by the fitness levels of Yaya Toure and Samir Nasri. Apparently, Nasri wasn’t allowed to train with the first team until he got in shape.
West Ham’s next three fixtures are away at Everton and at home against Chelsea and Manchester United. The team’s displays have been so pitiful that it is highly conceivable that West Ham will lose a further three times. Then it is Brighton away, Spurs at home and Leicester City away after that. It isn’t completely unfeasible that the club will reach October 27 still pointless.
Granted, it is not unusual for West Ham to be useless; it’s in their DNA.
But just now, the club actually looks broken. At Upton Park, there was always the spirit and the loyalty -if fatalistic - of the fans and the atmosphere of the ancestral stadium to maintain the club’s fiercely guarded identity, even while things went so wrong so often for the team.
At the sterile London Stadium, there is only resentment, frustration and the sense that the soul of West Ham has been ripped away.
The design flaws and the dispiriting atmosphere inside the place have been well documented. But there is much more to the problem. How can the supporters learn to love the place when the team performs so dismally there so often?
This season offered an opportunity to change, that but the displays against Bournemouth and Wolves were rancid. Add to that the fact that the side has been thrashed there so often in little more than two seasons - Liverpool, for example, have scored four on both of their visits - and it is little wonder it feels so hopeless.
A depressing situation. But one which in no way excuses what the manager and the players have delivered so far this season. This could get worse before it gets better - if it ever will.
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AKA ERNIE
11:52 Wed Sep 5
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oh great comeback I'm amazed you ain't on the stage
now get back to slagging off the manager,ground,players,badge,owners,atmosphere act like you always do.
I've actually done jaan a disservice he's not an idiot
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Bob De Niro
11:50 Wed Sep 5
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The only idiot is here you.
HTH.
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AKA ERNIE
11:48 Wed Sep 5
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bob I told you and jaan because you're both fucking idiots who prove on thread to thread that you are fucking idiots
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Percy Dalton
11:47 Wed Sep 5
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Nobody as yet has asked for him to be sacked we're just questioning is it so important to go back home while we're propping up the table.
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Bob De Niro
11:46 Wed Sep 5
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Ernie - But when you was telling people to shut it, as he know more than you, that was your response when they were questioning the manager, why else would have you said that.
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